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[Tad Comfy]

YouTube - S60 Touch

ripoff? or clever design?

[Rustman]

looks nice, symbian too so none of this lock in to network rubbish

[Kadafi]

Originally Posted by Rustman

looks nice, symbian too so none of this lock in to network rubbish

they still can

[NinjaSix]

Originally Posted by Kadafi

they still can

My suspicion is they won't. Or, at least, they won't try and stop you unlocking the phone with software updates.

It may be an Apple ripoff, but as long as they don't rip off Apple's business model, the S60 could well make it onto my shortlist to replace my aging D500. One thing's for sure, the iphone won't.

[Kadafi]

Originally Posted by NinjaSix

My suspicion is they won't. Or, at least, they won't try and stop you unlocking the phone with software updates.

It may be an Apple ripoff, but as long as they don't rip off Apple's business model, the S60 could well make it onto my shortlist to replace my aging D500. One thing's for sure, the iphone won't.

what do you mean? i think it might be different for you guys...
over here if you buy a phone on with a contract generally itll be locked to that carrier for a set period of time, i had the N91 which was symbian and locked - uncrackable at the time as well... if we buy the phone outright it wont be locked... i thought network locking was more of a carrier thing rather than phone manufacturers...

if u want an unlocked iphone just buy one from hong kong or someshit =S

[NinjaSix]

If you get a contract here then it's also for a fixed time.

Doesn't stop you unlocking the phone and putting a different SIM in it, though. Not too useful for new phones, but it allows you to sell it on after the contract is up, or hand it on to your folks or something. I guess the same goes for pay-as-you-go phones, for which it might be more useful.

The thing I can't stand about Apple's behaviour is they think the iPod's success gives them a divine right to tell everyone how to use the kit they buy. They think that so many people will want the iphone that they can dictate whatever restrictions they want and people will bend over in order to get one, and therefore at least one carrier will bend over, too. (I know someone who worked with Vodafone, who said they turned down the iphone because Apple wanted 125% of the first year profits. Dunno what the final deal with O2 was). What annoys me even more is they may be right in many cases - possibly enough to make it pay off financially (although I really hope it falls on its arse, and other companies profit by making their phones more open).

What really makes my blood boil, though, is that these software updates have actually broken a large number of legitimate iphones.

I hear that in places where Apple can't get their own way (i.e. where locking phones to a carrier like this is illegal) they're just not gonna sell the iphone there at all. Talk about throwing your toys out of the pram.

[Kadafi]

yeah its different, wat i was talking about was on the carrier side
appears with apple its on their side and from what you say it appears they wont be sold outright...

im not sure why theyd be doing this...theyd obviously sell a lot more phones if they didnt...there must be some sort of strategy...

i dont really give a shit anyway, ive been out of the gimmick phone game, how am i meant to t0uch screen sms while driving